{"id":1035,"date":"2009-05-12T00:15:13","date_gmt":"2009-05-12T08:15:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/?p=1035"},"modified":"2009-05-12T00:15:13","modified_gmt":"2009-05-12T08:15:13","slug":"torture-when-brutality-begets-brutality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/torture-when-brutality-begets-brutality\/","title":{"rendered":"Brutality Begets Brutality, That&#8217;s Why Torture is Not OK &#8212; An American POW&#8217;s Story"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of weeks ago, I posted the story of a man who\u00a0survived\u00a0a brutal\u00a0forced march across Germany during World War II.<\/p>\n<p>Since then, the Pew Research Center released the results of a <em>survey<\/em>\u00a0 revealing that a full forty-nine percent of the U.S. population believe that torture can often or sometimes be justified. I&#8217;d like that forty-nine percent to take a hard look at Robert Tharratt&#8217;s story.<\/p>\n<p>Know anybody in that forty-nine percent? Pls send them this link.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Here&#8217;s the post: <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>When Airman Robert Tharratt&#8217;s <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/historylink101.com\/ww2-planes\/aa-b-17-bomber-1.htm\"><em>B-17 bomber <\/em><\/a><em>was shot down over <\/em><em>Nuremberg<\/em><em> during <\/em><em>World War II<\/em><em>, he parachuted to safety only to be captured by a gang of <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hitler_Youth\"><em>Hitler Youth <\/em><\/a><em>brandishing\u00a0\u00a0knives.\u00a0The boys were wearing <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lederhosen\"><em>lederhosen<\/em><\/a><em>, the\u00a0traditional leather shorts worn by\u00a0German men.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Robert&#8217;s months of captivity were followed by a brutal forced march across Germany. Fifteen hundred out of six thousand POW&#8217;s died on the march. When Robert was finally liberated in 1945, he weighed 109 pounds. He spent the following weeks recuperating in a military hospital near Halle, Germany, with two of his POW camp buddies. This story, an excerpt from the book I&#8217;m working on, <\/em>Finding Holy: True Stories of Religion and Spirituality in America<em>, is from Robert&#8217;s time in Halle. <\/em><\/p>\n<div><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2009\/05\/12\/torture-when-brutality-begets-brutality\/orange-and-hand-2009-05-11\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1328\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1328\" title=\"A-World-War-II-POW-and-an-orange\" src=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/orange-and-hand-2009-05-11-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"A-World-War-II-POW-and-an-orange\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a>Robert tells his story here in\u00a0his own words:<\/strong><\/div>\n<div>&#8220;After two weeks [in the hospital], we were allowed to go outdoors and walk around. A river ran through the middle of town. Art, Lou and I decided to go across and get a look at downtown Halle. We stood on a small pier with other people, waiting for a rowboat to shuttle us across. We had just finished lunch and I was carrying an orange. A German boy about fourteen years old came up to me, pointed at my orange, and said, &#8216;<em>Bitte<\/em>.&#8217; He wanted me to give him my orange. He wasn&#8217;t being pushy or anything, he just wanted the orange.<\/div>\n<p>&#8220;He didn&#8217;t have the Hitler Youth shirt on, but he was wearing lederhosen. I recognized the britches, they were strictly Hitler Youth, and everything came back to me. The starvation, the death threats, the Hitler Youth waving their knives at me.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>&#8216;Nichts<\/em>.&#8221; I told him. &#8220;<em>&#8216;Raus!<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The people on the pier looked at me like, &#8216;He&#8217;s just a kid. Give him the orange.&#8217; The boy kept pestering me.<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; &#8216;<em>Raus!&#8217; <\/em>I said. &#8216;Get out of here!&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The boy still wouldn&#8217;t leave me alone, so I pushed him out of my way, and he fell in the river. Everybody on the pier started jabbering off at me in German. I couldn&#8217;t understand what they were saying and I didn&#8217;t care.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I looked right at them. &#8216;<em>Kriegsgefangene!<\/em>&#8216;I screamed. &#8216;Prisoner of war! <em>Kriegsgefangene!&#8217;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They shut up and backed away. One of the men reached down to the boy and pulled him up on the pier. The boy ran off, soaking wet. When the rowboat arrived, Lou, Art and I climbed in. There was plenty of room in the boat for more people, but nobody else got in. Nobody wanted to cross the river with me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em>It was decades before Robert could forgive his German captors\u00a0&#8212; and Germans in general &#8212; for the\u00a0cruelty he suffered during his wartime imprisonment. I&#8217;m wondering, how much\u00a0 bitterness has our government&#8217;s recent policy of torture\u00a0unleashed in the Arab world and beyond?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2009\/05\/12\/torture-when-brutality-begets-brutality\/burg-giebichenstein-mit-saale1\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1079\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-1079 size-full\" title=\"halle-with-castle-and-salle-river\" src=\"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/burg-giebichenstein-mit-saale1.jpg\" alt=\"World-WAr-II-POW Halle, Germany, today with castle and Salle River c 2009 Stadt Halle, Salle\" width=\"303\" height=\"212\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"[caption id=\"attachment_1047\" align=\"alignleft\" width=\"303\"]<a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2009\/05\/12\/torture-when-brutality-begets-brutality\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1047\" src=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/burg-giebichenstein-mit-saale.jpg\" alt=\"Halle, Germany, today with its castle and the Salle River c 2009 Stadt Halle, Salle\" width=\"303\" height=\"212\" \/><\/a> Halle, Germany, today with its castle and the Salle River c 2009 Stadt Halle, Salle[\/caption]\n<p>I&#8217;d like the forty-nine percent of Americans who say torture is sometimes justified to hear the story of an American POW who survived a brutal forced march during World War II. My conclusion: Brutality begets brutality. <a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2009\/05\/12\/torture-when-brutality-begets-brutality\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Read more<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1047,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167],"class_list":["post-1035","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-a-case-of-the-human-condition","tag-arab","tag-b-17","tag-bush-torture-policy","tag-finding-holy","tag-forced-march","tag-halle-germany","tag-hitler-youth","tag-muslim","tag-pew-forum","tag-prisoner-of-war","tag-robert-tharratt","tag-world-war-ii"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1035","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1035"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1035\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1047"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1035"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1035"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1035"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}