{"id":4165,"date":"2010-01-16T00:01:36","date_gmt":"2010-01-16T08:01:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/?p=4165"},"modified":"2010-01-16T00:01:36","modified_gmt":"2010-01-16T08:01:36","slug":"the-writing-room-different-from-different-than-which-is-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/the-writing-room-different-from-different-than-which-is-it\/","title":{"rendered":"The Writing Room: Different From, Different Than \u2013 Which Is It?"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_7493\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7493\" style=\"width: 580px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7493\" title=\"favorite-writing-craft-books\" src=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/favorite-writing-craft-books-580.jpg\" alt=\"books on shelf by john gardener, sands hall, strunk and white, noah lukeman, robert mckee, theodore m bernstein, stephen koch, susan shaughnessy. Photo by Barbara Falconer Newhall\" width=\"580\" height=\"387\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7493\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Different than? I searched my favorite books on writing for answers. Photo by BF Newhall<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>By Barbara Falconer Newhall<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I was at the gym working my pecs and abdominals on the stretching apparatus the other day when I spotted a flyer posted by a local nutritionist. Her name was Helayne Waldman and she was touting her services with some pithy fat facts &#8212; and some iffy English usage:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Did you know &#8211; belly fat is different than other fat.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Different <em>than<\/em>?<!--more--><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4178\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4178\" style=\"width: 212px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2010\/01\/16\/the-writing-room-different-from-different-than-which-is-it\/different-from-poster-2010-01-15\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4178\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4178 \" title=\"helayne-waldman-nutritionist-poster\" src=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/different-from-poster-2010-01-15.jpg\" alt=\"Helayne Waldman's poster got some sweaty revisions by the pundits at the gym. Some say than. Some say from.\" width=\"212\" height=\"249\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4178\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Helayne Waldman&#8217;s poster got some revisions from the sweaty English usage pundits at the gym.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>At least one sweaty pundit\u00a0had taken\u00a0issue with\u00a0Helayne&#8217;s belly fat sentence. Her typed &#8220;than&#8221; had been crossed out and replaced with a handwritten &#8220;from.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Now it read: \u00a0&#8220;Belly fat is different <em>from<\/em> other fat.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But the dispute didn&#8217;t end there. Someone else came along and changed the sentence back to: &#8220;Belly fat is different <em>than<\/em> other fat.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I was gratified. Apparently I&#8217;m not the only English speaker on the planet befuddled by the &#8220;different from\/different than&#8221; question. Despite my numerous years at typewriter and keyboard, I still don&#8217;t know my &#8220;froms&#8221; from my &#8220;thans.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>At the end of my senior year at Birmingham (Michigan) High School, my English teacher, Freda Richards,\u00a0handed out a sheet of paper with a list of tricky Englishisms. One of the items on her list was &#8220;different from.&#8221; Or was it &#8220;different than?&#8221; I can&#8217;t remember.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, I lost Mrs. Richard&#8217;s list when I went off to college, and I&#8217;ve been ruing my carelessness ever since. Which was it? &#8220;Different than?&#8221; Or &#8220;different from?&#8221;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9023\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9023\" style=\"width: 192px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2010\/01\/16\/the-writing-room-different-from-different-than-which-is-it\/richards-freda-birmingham-mi-high-school\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9023\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-9023 \" title=\"richards,-freda-birmingham-MI-high-school\" src=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/richards-freda-birmingham-MI-high-school-213x300.jpg\" alt=\"Freda Richards, Birmingham MI High School English teacher. Piper photo.\" width=\"192\" height=\"270\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9023\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Freda Richards, my high school English teacher. Piper photo.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Writing a blog post just last week I was stumped. Again. Should I write, &#8220;My father was different from his brothers and sisters?&#8221; Or, &#8220;My father was different than his brothers and sisters?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I followed a fine old journalistic tradition &#8211; I hid my ignorance by writing around the problem. I came up with,\u00a0&#8220;Unlike most of his siblings, my father left home after high school.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But when Helayne&#8217;s belly fat poster appeared before me at the gym, mid-stretch, I knew it was time to get a handle on the issue once and for all. Back in my writing room I headed for my shelf of reference books and scanned the indexes.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 My son&#8217;s high school grammar book &#8211;\u00a0 John E. Warriner&#8217;s ubiquitous <em>English Grammar and Composition<\/em>. No help.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 My favorite, the elegant <em>Style: Ten Lessons in Clarity and Grace<\/em>, by the University of Chicago&#8217;s Joseph M. Williams. Nope.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 That old stand-by, <em>The Elements of Style<\/em>, by William Strunk, Jr.,\u00a0and E.B. White. Not much help. &#8220;Different from&#8221; is tersely ruled OK, but nothing&#8217;s said\u00a0about &#8220;different than.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u2022\u00a0<em>The Associated Press Stylebook and Libel Manual<\/em>. Ditto.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I pulled out an old book that my New York roommate had given me for Christmas way back in my 20&#8217;s. It was <em><a href=\"http:\/\/authors.simonandschuster.com\/Theodore-M-Bernstein\/699144\">The Careful Writer<\/a><\/em>. The author was Theodore M. Bernstein, assistant managing editor of the New York Times and formerly an associate professor at the Columbia School of Journalism.<\/p>\n<p>And there it was on page 139 &#8211; an entry labeled &#8220;Different From, Different Than&#8221; &#8211; situated happily between Mr. Bernstein&#8217;s thoughts on &#8220;Different&#8221; and &#8220;Differentiate.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>To my relief, I saw that the &#8220;different from&#8221; vs. &#8220;different than&#8221;\u00a0issue was not a simple one. The illustrious Mr. Bernstein had devoted a full three pages to its complexities. My life-long confusion, it turned out,\u00a0was justified.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what I learned:<\/p>\n<p>First, says Mr. Bernstein, you&#8217;ll never be wrong if you stick to &#8220;different from.&#8221; There&#8217;s generally no argument about the okayness of &#8220;different from.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;different than&#8221; that raises the questions.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7499\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7499\" style=\"width: 203px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2010\/01\/16\/the-writing-room-different-from-different-than-which-is-it\/walking-on-alligators-by-susan-shaughnessy-book-cover-394x580\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-7499\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7499\" title=\"walking-on-alligators-by-susan-shaughnessy-book-cover\" src=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/walking-on-alligators-by-susan-shaughnessy-book-cover-394x580-203x300.jpg\" alt=\"Cover of book, &quot;Walking on Alligators,&quot; with skelton man walking on fierce alligators.\" width=\"203\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7499\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;Walking on Alligators&#8221; by Susan Shaughnessy didn&#8217;t help with the from\/than question. But it&#8217;s my go-to book for writing inspiration.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Mr. Bernstein points out that the following sentence makes sense, technically: &#8220;The grass is greener <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">than<\/span> the leaves <em>are green<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But this one does not: &#8220;Boys are different <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">than<\/span> girls <em>are different<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In other words, &#8220;different&#8221; does not really function as a comparative adjective the way such\u00a0words as greener, fatter, sweatier and hairier do. Thus, for most purposes, &#8220;different than&#8221; is not a logical choice.<\/p>\n<p>But, continues Mr. Bernstein, sometimes &#8220;different than&#8221; is actually the way to go. He offers this sentence from Cardinal Newman: &#8220;It has possessed me in a different way than ever before.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In the Cardinal Newman sentence, &#8220;than&#8221; is followed by a clause. If the writer were to use &#8220;different from,&#8221; the clause would have to be rewritten, with awkward, verbose results: &#8220;It has possessed me in a different way from the way in which it ever before did.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And so, after so many years of shirking the question, I finally have myself a rule of thumb: It&#8217;s\u00a0&#8220;different from&#8221; unless &#8220;different&#8221; is followed by a clause or a clause fragment.<\/p>\n<p>From now on I&#8217;m sticking to &#8220;from.&#8221; When &#8220;different than&#8221; is called for, I&#8217;m hoping my common sense will kick in and I&#8217;ll notice that this situation is different from most, and I&#8217;ll write the sentence in a different way than I normally would.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you Mr. Bernstein. I have tacked a photocopy of your &#8220;Different From, Different Than&#8221; entry on the gym bulletin board next to Helayne&#8217;s poster. That done, I&#8217;m returning my attention to my belly fat.<\/p>\n<p><em>If you&#8217;re an English usage fiend, you&#8217;ll like my post on <a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2009\/08\/14\/noah-lukeman\/\">Noah Lukeman<\/a> and the mighty colon.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"[caption id=\"attachment_7493\" align=\"aligncenter\" width=\"500\"]<a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2010\/01\/16\/the-writing-room-different-from-different-than-which-is-it\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-7493\" src=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/favorite-writing-craft-books-580-500x334.jpg\" alt=\"books on shelf by john gardener, sands hall, strunk and white, noah lukeman, robert mckee, theodore m bernstein, stephen koch, susan shaughnessy. Photo by Barbara Falconer Newhall\" width=\"500\" height=\"334\" \/><\/a> Some of my favorite books on the craft of writing. Photo by Barbara Falconer Newhall[\/caption]\n<p>I was at the gym working on my pecs and abdominals the other day when I spotted a flyer announcing, &#8220;Belly fat is different than other fat.&#8221; Shouldn&#8217;t that be different from? What&#8217;s correct? I hadn&#8217;t a clue. <a href=\"http:\/\/barbarafalconernewhall.com\/2010\/01\/16\/the-writing-room-different-from-different-than-which-is-it\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Read more<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1615,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[50,52],"tags":[499,500,34,501,220,82,69],"class_list":["post-4165","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-on-writing-reading","category-the-writing-room","tag-different-from","tag-different-than","tag-dont-miss","tag-freda-richards","tag-grammar-geek","tag-on-the-funny-side","tag-writing-tips"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4165","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4165"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4165\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1615"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4165"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4165"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/server.stagingweb3.net\/barbarafalconernewhall\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4165"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}